With Todd Bensman and Robert Charles

TODD BENSMAN, Senior National Security Fellow, Center for Immigration Studies, former Department of Homeland Security official, Author, Overrun: How Joe Biden Unleashed the Greatest Border Crisis in U.S. History,  America’s Covert Border War: The Untold Story of the Nation’s Battle to Prevent Jihadist Infiltration, @BensmanTodd

ROBERT CHARLES, Spokesman, Association of Mature American Citizens, Former Assistant Secretary, State at the State Department’s Bureau of International Narcotics and Law Enforcement Affairs in the Bush Administration, Author, “Eagles and Evergreens,” @RCharles4USA